Enjoy a day of exploring the ocean and Catalina Island! Departing from Dana Point Harbor, it is a 32 mile boat ride to the island. On the way it is very likely that we will come across dolphins, sometimes even whales, and of course we will stop to check them out! Once at the island, we will take you to beautiful snorkel spots that are only accessible by boat. For lunch we will drop you off in Avalon to grab some food at one of the many restaurants on the island and to check out the town. After lunch we can jump in the water one more time and then head back to Dana Point and be home around 5:00pm. All snorkeling equipment and wetsuits will be provided and the boat will have a cooler stocked with cold drinks. Booking Charge: $1200

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The QEST4 software contains digitally-encoded information relating to a large number of health-related factors. These range across anatomy and physiology, body chemistry, medicines, nutrients and pathogens, mental and emotional factors, metabolic processes, and more. During a test, a set of these ‘signatures’, chosen by the practitioner, are output in rapid succession by the QEST4 hardware as electromagnetic signals. Using a simple and safe low voltage circuit formed by holding two brass cylinders, the response of the body to those signals is recorded. The response being measured is small changes in the electrical resistance of the skin. This information is relayed back to the software. A report is generated on the computer of any responses that are outside specific limits.

Running a QEST4 test is an example of a process that we call bio-energetic testing.

Bio-energetic (or just ‘energetic’) testing is effectively ‘asking the body-mind a question’ and obtaining the response directly from a physiological signal, without engaging the conscious and language centers of the mind. It is helpful to make some comparisons to other techniques that go part of the way towards this. Many people will be familiar with muscle testing or kinesiology. This is another form of bio-energetic testing applied by health practitioners. In kinesiology the question is often asked verbally or the subject may hold an object or substance that is being tested. The response is measured by changes in the contractile strength of the skeletal muscles, checked manually by the tester.

These examples bear similarities to QEST4 testing, but QEST4 testing goes one step further. The challenges or questions are presented as micropower radio signal output, rather than in words.

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The word ‘energetic’ does not relate to energy in the strict sense that a physicist would mean it. Instead we are using the term loosely to refer to aspects of human functioning that are not just biomechanical (e.g. joints, muscles and motion) and biochemical (e.g. nutrients, proteins, hormones and oxidation). The functioning of the human body is governed by informational signals. Some of these, such as the instructions for making proteins encoded in DNA are recognized by modern science. The epigenetic factors – how our experiences in life affect gene expression – are just beginning to be understood. It is likely that there are many other communication mechanisms at work that have yet to be explained scientifically. Biology is a very young science. The existence of control mechanisms beyond genetic determinism is not seriously disputed by modern science, but its implications have not filtered through to medicine in practice. This is a result of resistance to change and because it is not yet clear how to employ the knowledge in systematic treatment programs.

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No, but let us be clear about definitions here. ‘Diagnosis’ is derived from a Greek word meaning to ‘discern or distinguish’. In the modern medical context, this means to take a set of symptoms presented by a patient and state that they fit better into the category for disease A, disease B or perhaps disease C. In this way the medical practitioner can choose appropriate treatment, and it is important that he/she gets it right because the treatment for disease A might have quite negative consequences for a disease B patient, especially if it is surgical.

QEST4 testing does indeed ‘discern’ only in that it records a completely individual set of responses to signals. This may assist a holistic practitioner in the approach that is characteristic of such disciplines: “treating the patient, not the disease”.  Information obtained may support you in the process of better understanding the body as a whole as it relates to energy flow.


Yes. Bio-resonance systems are operating along the same principle, although many of them are much more limited in their application compared to QEST4. Resonance and ‘frequency’ are often used interchangeably. We prefer the term ‘energetic signatures’ as in truth, the recorded and encoded signal may interact with the consciousness in a more complex way than a single frequency or simple wave-form.

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If an item shows up as unbalanced (usually a red or yellow indication against the item in the displayed list), then that indicates that from among numerous items tested, the body gave an above or below average electrical resistance response. In other words, the body-mind system has indicated some kind of reaction to the item being tested, and along the lines of homeopathic ideology, we can use that to ‘remind’ the organism to improve that particular aspect of homeostasis.

Consider a couple of parallels. Firstly from immunology: introduction to a pathogenic microbe initially causes a disturbance to the body, perhaps quite a serious acute reaction. However, as the information is relayed around the immune system, the body learns to cope with that particular pattern better next time. Secondly, from psychology: a therapist mentions an event in calm conversation to his client and the client breaks down in tears – he has hit a raw nerve. Subsequent discussion desensitizes the event and places it in a context. In both these cases, a repetition of information has allowed the body to become more robustly adapted to its environment.

The QEST4 test is identifying items to which the body-mind system can learn better adaptive behaviors. 

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Scientist on Tablet


We can proceed down a number of paths. Firstly, we can deliver the energetic signatures highlighted by the test back to the body. The QEST4 system provides us two ways of doing this: by creating an energetic informational remedy, or by delivering the energetic information via a safe low-energy laser. That much is simple, and is often quite clearly effective. However, most practitioners choose to use the QEST4 results to determine other aspects of a wellness program according to their particular expertise. Most commonly this means nutrition, herbs, homeopathy, acupuncture, osteopathy or emotionally-based therapies.


The answer to this is ‘sometimes yes, sometimes no’, and it would be surprising if it was any other way. It is always re-assuring for practitioners and clients if the test reports seem to confirm things that the client is reporting in the case history, perhaps even more so if it is things they have initially held back from telling the practitioner.

However, the real value of bio-energetic or bio-resonance technologies is to reveal things that are not obvious – patterns that are able to help change the dynamics of the system. These, by definition, are not the symptoms themselves. They may be recognizable as things closely associated with a symptom, or they may be counter intuitive or apparently random.

A client’s state of health can be considered like a complex 3-dimensional form about which we can only ever see a 2-dimensional snapshot. When we combine multiple snapshots from different angles, we get a better impression of the overall shape.

When we want to help a client undo patterns of functioning that have been practiced for a lifetime and even supported by genes ‘switched on’ by environmental influence, the process can be seen as stripping away ‘layers’. Bio-energetic testing using the QEST4 reveals what that person is ready to process, and those may or may not correlate with the main symptom that the client is presenting. As we peel away more layers, different causative aspects of the health problems reveal themselves for healing.

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Rarely if ever will a test repeated two minutes later give the same set of responses as the first time. This is a critical point. As the system is revealing the response to informational signals, and response to information is instantaneous – the response to the same questions will be different if you run the test again. If you think about it, a question asked a second time is always different in context and how it is received and the response it provokes.

That’s not the same as saying that a physical parameter has changed, though the body responds constantly via PNIE. We might consider that a response has begun to the information revealed and an adaptation has begun. That adaptation may take a while to promote a noticeable physical change. Response may not occur at all initially, and sometimes feedback needs repeating or delivering in a new form due to the many forms of blockage we put up to change. The encoded remedy helps with this process.